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New Aircraft!

Postby MTN001 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:34 pm

The rollout of the 15th anniversary aircraft starts now!

On the fleet page, we've added two new planes: CRJ-700 for FSX, and the Boeing 717-200 for FSX. Both aircraft are painted with our new logo and sport the 15 year anniversary seal.

Many thanks for all who worked on these:

Gary Widup MTN001, flight dynamics
Verne Cotton MTN005, painting
Craig Hadfield MTN2035, logistics
Dale Reitz MTN2036, logo and 15 year seal
Mike Deihl MTN2071, flight dynamics
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Re: New Aircraft!

Postby MTN2090 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:31 pm

Happy 15th anniversary to Gary the owner and all staff members.

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Re: New Aircraft!

Postby MTN2245 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:32 am

Yes, Happy Anniversary!
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Re: New Aircraft!

Postby mtn005 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:22 pm

Delta Air Lines has leased 88 712's from Southwest Airlines after Southwest integrated their subsidiary Airtran back into the parent company. For now, these aircraft are being introduced into the Eastern US. Delta has experienced business customer complaints about the current CRJ's being too cramped and lacking in amenities. So DAL plans to replace the CRJ's with the 712's complete with WiFi, first class sections, backward facing seats and other perks to satisfy business flyers.
Mountain Air will model these flights by rolling out the 712 to help replace the largely unsatisfactory E170's and 737-700's that we had in operation in the Eastern US. The E170 and the 737-700 will however remain official aircraft.

Here are some pertinent links about Delta's plans for the 712.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayinth ... s/3189607/
http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=1661
http://www.aviationpros.com/news/111030 ... oeing-717s

Gary and I did a final flight test of the 712 last Saturday and came away very impressed with this aircraft's inflight stability. This plane is no rocket ship off of the runway though, and requires around 4 degrees of trim for takeoff.
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Re: New Aircraft!

Postby MTN2090 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:28 pm

Verne,

The main reason Delta got 717s from Southwest airline which did not want Air Train's 717s is that Delta inherited HUGE fleet of aging and extremely fuel guzzling FORTY YEARS OLD DC-9s (about 35 or 40 units in active service) from Northwest airline that Delta absorbed during the merge. So Delta was looking for fast solution to replace huge fleet of DC-9s without affecting or inconveniencing DC-9 routes. Hence 717s are perfect solution for Delta to solve the problem without without wasting time waiting for new 737s to be manufactured and delivered to replace DC-9s. Also, getting lots of 717s (88 units) allow Delta to save money avoiding need for buying new 737s by shifting current 737s from low destiny but important routes to high destiny routes and use 717s not only for DC-9 routes but also for low destiny but important routes. In other words, 35 or 40 717s will be used on DC-9 routes and the rest of 717s will replace current 737s for low destiny but important routes allowing Delta to shift 737s to higher destiny domestic routes.

And Southwest agreed to this deal to send 717s to Delta because Delta's offer not to buy new 737s from Boeing mean that Southwest will get new 737s faster than expected. It is win win for Delta and Southwest. Southwest and Boeing also paid some money to Delta in exchange for cancelling 737 orders and for asking Boeing to shift production of new 737s from Delta to Southwest. Yes Boeing paid Delta for cancellation because Boeing did not want to be stuck with 90 units of 717s. Boeing was happy to see Delta and Southwest solving the problem of the fleet of 717s.

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Re: New Aircraft!

Postby mtn005 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:39 am

As I understand it, the 717-200 is totally out of production, hence this is really not a Boeing problem. This appears to be a win-win worked out between DAL and Southwest. I am rather inclined to believe the press releases extant at this time. Either way, this provides a nice scenario for introducing the 712 into service at Mountain Air.
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Re: New Aircraft!

Postby MTN2090 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:09 pm

mtn005 wrote:As I understand it, the 717-200 is totally out of production, hence this is really not a Boeing problem.


Actually it would have been Boeing's problem because Southwest originally wanted to trade to Boeing entire fleet of 717s for new 737s which terrified Boeing's management. Luckily for Boeing, Delta was expressing interest on 717s as quick solution to replace 30 units of 40 year old DC-9s inherited from Northwest. So Boeing acted as some sort of middleman helping Delta and Southwest make the deal that benefited all three parties.

USATODAY does not have a clue about aviation. USATODAY is not an authoritative aviation publication or source of news for aviation.

I got info from many aviation magazines, Air Tran employees, and Delta employees.
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Re: New Aircraft!

Postby MTN2090 » Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:03 am

Photo of 717s in new Delta livery. Here is link:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Delta-Ai ... 1/2338783/

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